North Korea is half a world away from Israel. Yet the nuclear test it conducted on Monday has the Israeli defense establishment up in arms and its Iranian nemesis smiling like the Cheshire Cat. Understanding why this is the case is key to understanding the danger posed by what someone once impolitely referred to as the Axis of Evil.
Less than two years ago, on September 6, 2007, the IAF destroyed a North Korean-built plutonium production facility at Kibar, Syria. The destroyed installation was a virtual clone of North Korea’s Yongbyon plutonium production facility.
This past March the Swiss daily Neue Zuercher Zeitung reported that Iranian defector Ali Reza Asghari, who before his March 2007 defection to the US served as a general in Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and as deputy defense minister, divulged that Iran paid for the North Korean facility. Teheran viewed the installation in Syria as an extension of its own nuclear program. According to Israeli estimates, Teheran spent between $1 billion and $2b. for the project.
It can be assumed that Iranian personnel were present in North Korea during Monday’s test. Over the past several years, Iranian nuclear officials have been on hand for all of North Korea’s major tests including its first nuclear test and its intercontinental ballistic missile test in 2006.
Moreover, it wouldn’t be far-fetched to think that North Korea conducted some level of coordination with Iran regarding the timing of its nuclear bomb and ballistic missile tests this week. It is hard to imagine that it is mere coincidence that North Korea’s actions came just a week after Iran tested its solid fuel Sejil-2 missile with a range of 2,000 kilometers.
Aside from their chronological proximity, the main reason it makes sense to assume that Iran and North Korea coordinated their tests is because North Korea has played a central role in Iran’s missile program. Although Western observers claim that Iran’s Sejil-2 is based on Chinese technology transferred to Iran through Pakistan, the fact is that Iran owes much of its ballistic missile capacity to North Korea. The Shihab-3 missile, for instance, which forms the backbone of Iran’s strategic arm threatening Israel and its Arab neighbors, is simply an Iranian adaptation of North Korea’s Nodong missile technology. Since at least the early 1990s, North Korea has been only too happy to proliferate that technology to whoever wants it. Like Iran, Syria owes much of its own massive missile arsenal to North Korean proliferation.
Responding Monday to North Korea’s nuclear test, US President Barack Obama said, “North Korea’s behavior increases tensions and undermines stability in Northeast Asia.”
While true, North Korea’s intimate ties with Iran and Syria show that North Korea’s nuclear program, with its warhead, missile and technological components, is not a distant threat, limited in scope to faraway East Asia. It is a multilateral program shared on various levels with Iran and Syria. Consequently, it endangers not just the likes of Japan and South Korea, but all nations whose territory and interests are within range of Iranian and Syrian missiles.
Beyond its impact on Iran’s technological and hardware capabilities, North Korea’s nuclear program has had a singular influence on Iran’s political strategy for advancing its nuclear program diplomatically. North Korea has been a trailblazer in its utilization of a mix of diplomatic aggression and seeming accommodation to alternately intimidate and persuade its enemies to take no action against its nuclear program. Iran has followed Pyongyang’s model assiduously. Moreover, Iran has used the international – and particularly the American – response to various North Korean provocations over the years to determine how to position itself at any given moment in order to advance its nuclear program.
For instance, when the US reacted to North Korea’s 2006 nuclear and ICBM tests by reinstating the six-party talks in the hopes of appeasing Pyongyang, Iran learned that by exhibiting an interest in engaging the US on its uranium enrichment program it could gain valuable time. Just as North Korea was able to dissipate Washington’s resolve to act against it while buying time to advance its program still further through the six-party talks, so Iran, by seemingly agreeing to a framework for discussing its uranium enrichment program, has been able to keep the US and Europe at bay for the past several years.
THE OBAMA administration’s impotent response to Pyongyang’s ICBM test last month and its similarly stuttering reaction to North Korea’s nuclear test on Monday have shown Teheran that it no longer needs to even pretend to have an interest in negotiating aspects of its nuclear program with Washington or its European counterparts. Whereas appearing interested in reaching an accommodation with Washington made sense during the Bush presidency, when hawks and doves were competing for the president’s ear, today, with the Obama administration populated solely by doves, Iran, like North Korea, believes it has nothing to gain by pretending to care about accommodating Washington.
This point was brought home clearly by both Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s immediate verbal response to the North Korean nuclear test on Monday and by Iran’s provocative launch of warships in the Gulf of Aden the same day. As Ahmadinejad said, as far the Iranian regime is concerned, “Iran’s nuclear issue is over.”
There is no reason to talk anymore. Just as Obama made clear that he intends to do nothing in response to North Korea’s nuclear test, so Iran believes that the president will do nothing to impede its nuclear program.
Of course it is not simply the administration’s policy toward North Korea that is signaling to Iran that it has no reason to be concerned that the US will challenge its nuclear aspirations. The US’s general Middle East policy, which conditions US action against Iran’s nuclear weapons program on the prior implementation of an impossible-to-achieve Israel-Palestinian peace agreement makes it obvious to Teheran that the US will take no action whatsoever to prevent it from following in North Korea’s footsteps and becoming a nuclear power.
During his press briefing with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu last Monday, Obama said the US would reassess its commitment to appeasing Iran at year’s end. And early this week it was reported that Obama has instructed the Defense Department to prepare plans for attacking Iran. Moreover, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen, has made several recent statements warning of the danger a nuclear-armed Iran will pose to global security – and by extension, to US national security.
On the surface, all of this seems to indicate that the Obama administration may be willing to actually do something to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power. Unfortunately, though, due to the timeline Obama has set, it is clear that before he will be ready to lift a finger against Iran, the mullocracy will have already become a nuclear power.
Israel assesses that Iran will have a sufficient quantity of enriched uranium to make a nuclear bomb by the end of the year. The US believes that it could take until mid-2010. At his press briefing last week Obama said that if the negotiations are deemed a failure, the next step for the US will be to expand international sanctions against Iran. It can be assumed that here, too, Obama will allow this policy to continue for at least six months before he will be willing to reconsider it. By that point, in all likelihood, Iran will already be in possession of a nuclear arsenal.
Beyond Obama’s timeline, over the past week, two other developments made it apparent that regardless of what Iran does, the Obama administration will not revise its policy of placing its Middle East emphasis on weakening Israel rather than on stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. First, last Friday, Yediot Aharonot reported that at a recent lecture in Washington, US Lt.-Gen. Keith Dayton, who is responsible for training Palestinian military forces in Jordan, indicated that if Israel does not surrender Judea and Samaria within two years, the Palestinian forces he and his fellow American officers are now training at a cost of more than $300 million could begin killing Israelis.
Assuming the veracity of Yediot’s report, even more unsettling than Dayton’s certainty that within a short period of time these US-trained forces could commence murdering Israelis, is his seeming equanimity in the face of the known consequences of his actions. The prospect of US-trained Palestinian military forces slaughtering Jews does not cause Dayton to have a second thought about the wisdom of the US’s commitment to building and training a Palestinian army.
Dayton’s statement laid bare the disturbing fact that even though the administration is fully aware of the costs of its approach to the Palestinian conflict with Israel, it is still unwilling to reconsider it. Defense Secretary Robert Gates just extended Dayton’s tour of duty for an additional two years and gave him the added responsibility of serving as Obama’s Middle East mediator George Mitchell’s deputy.
FOUR DAYS after Dayton’s remarks were published, senior American and Israeli officials met in London. The reported purpose of the high-level meeting was to discuss how Israel will abide by the administration’s demand that it prohibit all construction inside Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria.
What was most notable about the meeting was its timing. By holding the meeting the day after North Korea tested its bomb and after Iran’s announcement that it rejects the US’s offer to negotiate about its nuclear program, the administration demonstrated that regardless of what Iran does, Washington’s commitment to putting the screws on Israel is not subject to change.
All of this of course is music to the mullahs’ ears. Between America’s impotence against their North Korean allies and its unshakable commitment to keeping Israel on the hot seat, the Iranians know that they have no reason to worry about Uncle Sam.
As for Israel, it is a good thing that the IDF has scheduled the largest civil defense drill in the country’s history for next week. Between North Korea’s nuclear test, Iran’s brazen bellicosity and America’s betrayal, it is clear that the government can do nothing to impact Washington’s policies toward Iran. No destruction of Jewish communities will convince Obama to act against Iran.
Today Israel stands alone against the mullahs and their bomb. And this, like the US’s decision to stand down against the Axis of Evil, is not subject to change.
Beyond what you have written Ms. Glick is my real fear that North Korea and Iran have been coordinating their military and diplomatic activities vis a vis the West in order to confound Obama with military escalations on two fronts, the Korean Peninsula and the Persian Gulf, while the American military is totally committed to Iraq and Afghanistan.
It wouldn’t take much on the part of the North Korean military to set off even a small conflagration that would tie the Obama administration and what remains of the American military up in knots, something like the USS Pueblo in 1968, only with American sailors being killed or threatened with death. Worse, the simple truth is that the North Korean military just as easily could launch an all out attack on South Korea, turn Seoul into a desolation in a few hours, and begin to ravage South Korea at will, and the only way to blunt or stop that attack would be for Obama to authorize the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the North Korean forces. God help us if that happens!
And back to our neighborhood, given the Obama administrations’ obvious weakness and lack of determination in dealing with either the North Korean or Iranian nuclear threat, the time is fast approaching when Israel is going to have to use the IDF and the IAF to either delay or hopefully put an end to the Iranian nuclear program. The likely outcome of this will be at the least massive missile and rocket attacks on Israel by Hizballa and Syria, and terrorist attacks on Israel by the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli Arab community. Moreover,the Iranian Navy could attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz to all maritime traffic, thus cutting in half the international oil supply and would bring the American Navy into direct conflict with it’s Iranian counterpart.
But then again, North Korea could back down and go back to the faux negotiations it has been conducting for the past decade thus obviating any need for an act of war like an American and South Korean naval blockade on it’s ports.
But I believe that the Israeli government has already decided that a massive and destructive Israeli military strike on Iran is absolutely necessary and will take place quite soon no matter what takes place on the Korean Peninsula.
And this Israeli preemptive military strike on Iran could be the excuse that North Korea is counting for to allow it to make a military foray into the South
Iran’s Amadinejad and the Ill Mr. Kim can see that the Emperor Obama is a paper tiger and so it stands to reason that Russia and China see this as well.
I wonder how many nukes have already been made avaliable to Iran by North Korea ?
The U.S.thinkcraft tanks has been so dumbed down to not understand that China could have ended North Korea’s great ambitions long ago if it had wanted to.
The idiot experts cannot see that Russia and China also know how to use pawns to checkmate their chief opponent.
For a long time Israel has been content to play the part of the dominated pawn at the mercy of her dearest,loving,dominatrix Emperor.There is nothing Israel would not do to please her lover,even thow fellow.jews off their land and homes to gain favor. Now the religious devotion of the cheap whore is repaid.
Israel pulled her ‘deterrence’ teeth out and left them with Washington long before they were ordered not to respond to Iraq’s scud attacks.This stupidity paved the way for Hamas and Hezbollah to do the same with impunity. The pawn has come to the peaceful death camp and begins to feel jilted.
Always going out of her way to please her two timing lover as we saw with the loyal prostitute Olmert ending the Gaza war so as not to undermine the festivities of his new pimp Obama and his grand Inauguaration.What cheap fools you have played and how your loyalty is now rewarded.
Now that the emperor has proven to be a paper tiger Israel makes a late attempt to escape the fate of all pawns.
Is Israel capable of finally resurrecting red lines to halt it’s self destructive appetite to please her peace pimp or does Israel like playing the obedient whore to her treacherous master ? Netanyahu still does not know how to act like a leader and still takes orders as he puts his foot down only half way.
A good start in dealing with your naked, treacherous emperor would be to trade General Dayton for Jonathan Pollard.
Ex P.M. Sharon’s words of warning to the sly snake Bush II that he would not allow Israel to become another Czechoslavakia sacrificed
to appease evil forces needs to be renewed with action now instead of the same hollow words of the neutered, gutless,ever appeasing Israeli politicians.
How stupid Israel has been to allow a fake allly to train Arabs to kill Jews and to assist in this evil even after you saw the outcome of surrendering Gaza to allah’s boys
Will you finally end your stupidity of always pleasing your now broke and dying pimp ?
God help Israel !
The Obama administration will exhaust all diplomatic options with Iran and North Korea. President Obama’s view is that it would be a waste to expend anymore US treasure on additional conflicts. Both Iran and North Korea know that US forces are spread too thin, and are taking advantage of the situation. President Obama is taking a “wait and see approach” and will react to unfolding events. The US needs to remember that sanctions don’t deter tyrants. Unfortunately, President Obama believes that an emasculated Israel will finally solve the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Israel is in the same position as that woman who woke up one morning to discover that her husband had had a sex change operation. You know the relationship has fundamentally changed but you are not sure what to do about it.
I would suggest a PR campaign to get the world on Israel’s side. First, I would have travel agencies in Israel offer bargain rates to come to Israel under the theme “LAST CHANCE TO VISIT THE HOLY LAND!”.
Second, I would start a film festival at Armaggedon where each year films about the end of the world will be presented.
Caroline the world is coming apart at the seams and the leaders of the free world better wake up and gets a grip on things before all hell breaks loose.
First of all North Korea and Iran should not be this far into the nuclear arms race.
Previous administrations have failed to recognize the overall threat and the will to take necessary steps to put a halt to it.
Now the US has a timid administration in charge that feels it can persuade little Hitler, the mullahs of Iran and Kim of N. Korea to put their nuclear ambitions aside.
You should know who you are dealing with and these birds are not your average Mr. Rogers Neighborhood type of people.
They are evil to say the least.
Bare that in mind and you begin to worry.
As for the community organizer, this is way beyond his ability to deal with and other than a majority of military experts the rest are pure knuckleheads. That’s scary.
This is not a walk in the park in Chicago.
We are the freedom fighters of the world protecting democracies and we are training Palestinians to kill Israelis our only trusted friend and democracy in the ME.
Somebody please clue me in on why we are obligated to provide this training to the Palestinians?
Why is the US administration so bent on pushing for a two state solution?
If anything the US should stand by Israel not the Palestinians.
Let the Arab world absorb the Palestinians, there is more than adequate area for them to establish their own state and live amongst their Arab brothers.
Always spot-on and provocative, Caroline brings up the wiped out Nuke Plants in Syria, illegal, and never mentioned in the press. Why? It leads down too many paths as to where did they get the product in order to use the facilities? Iraq? Did Valerie Plame forget about her yellow cake-denying husband? Or is this not news you can use? It’s just plutonium with a 500,000 year half-life; we’ll have plenty of time to headline that stuff?
Didn’t know it was built to the N.Korean standard nuke reprocessing plant, you know the illegal one, now just started again…
Thanks for connecting the dots, Caroline. When the Arab Nazi’s get ahold of nukes, like the Pakistanis. Our solution, to give UAE and Saudi Arabia nukes…. oh, that’s a great idea. What will Uncle Sheik give to Uncle Obama, or is this payback for the Harvard Law, and a few million to right some stinking books, but really many flaks to make the stink smell good.
Oh, and isn’t it about time a F-22 and Air Force One fly around, say the Pentagon for some more facebook shots? Hey, I’ll have Timmy Geithner write me a check … or better yet cash with my favorite serial numbers on the bills. Whee, thankfully, too few to matter care that I was born in Kenya, Mein Vaterland.
Caroline, you closed this article with the words, “Today Israel stands alone …” I thank G-d that some in Israel are waking up to the brutal cruel reality of this world.
But Israel does not stand alone, there are some in the world who love Israel and want to see her not only survive, but thrive. We are small in number, but we know that there is One who loves Israel and who for His name will never forsake her, even when she whored with other gods and the nations.
Knowing what many Jews have seem to have forgotten is both wonderful and terrifying at the same instant. Wonderful in that the G-d we worship is going to rip apart the fabric of space and time to reveal Himself, terrifying because we are in the world of nations and our nation is not supporting Israel.
What too many fail to realize is that America’s collapse started with the Gaza withdrawal in which the US was the leader of promoting. I wish it was not so, but it is. Facts speak for themselves.
But it is good that now Israeli’s are waking up to the fact that they are alone, that there is no power between them and the ovens of the 21st century now. All that protects Israel is the word of G-d. You tried to put your faith in mankind, and this has not helped. It is time to put your faith in that which gave you your faith to begin with.
Christians and Arabs should consider ourselves either an adopted or a half bothers to Israel, but history has proved is the only thing a Christian has ever had in common with Arabs when it comes to the children of Jacob is Antisemitism.
Ted Moran
If I read your last paragraph correctly and I would hope I am wrong as you insinuate that Catholics and Christians are anti-Semitic.
That’s not true, the fact of the matter you may lay that label on the majority of liberal American Jews who fail to stand up and be counted and pretty much contributed to the election of Obama.
Where is the outrage with this administration’s actions towards Israel?
I believe they are afraid to be too Jewish. Nonsense, you can be a great American and likewise a great Israeli. Caroline is an example of being both.
I mentioned a number of times if you are Jewish regardless where you reside, you are connected to Israel by heritage, tradition and by G-d.
There are a number of Catholics like myself and Christians who support Israel and want to see her live in peace in the land G-d provided.
The land I consider; from the River Jordan to the Mediterranean, including the Golan Heights, Gaza and the Sinai.
Ron,
I wish I was wrong, but if you think that I am insinuating disparaging remarks against Catholics and Christian you are wrong in this assumption. I do not insinuate, I am stating historical records. For the record I was baptized a Roman Catholic but I have chosen instead to be a heretical follower of a Jewish born rabbi named Yeshua.
If you are honest with yourself and research church history you to may come to the point I arrived at. The charge of decide against our brothers the Jews was not revoked by the church until 1963 when Pope John XXIII removed the charge, declaring the Jews were innocent of the death of Jesus. From reading your bible you know that antisemitism entered into Christianity by Paul of Tarsus. We all know Jesus died on Passover eve, but have you ever wondered why our “Easter” celebrations never aligned with the Jewish Passover? Did you know the reason why is because the council of Nicea purposefully changed the date. The reason is recorded in Eusebius’ Life of Constantine, Book III chapter 18, where Emperor Constantine has stated, “Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way.”
In between then and Pope John XXIII has been filled with antisemitism. For example No Jew shall marry a Christian woman, nor shall any Christian man marry a Jewess; for if anyone should be guilty of an act of this kind, he will be liable for having committed the crime of adultery, and permission is hereby granted to all persons to accuse him. Emperor Valentinian 388 A.D. Jews may not enter imperial service. Jews who have already taken the oath for service may remain, except those in the armed service. Jews are not prohibited from becoming advocates or decurions. Honorius, Theodosius Codex Theodosius XVI.viii.24 Persons who join Judaism from Christianity shall have their property confiscated. Constantius, Codex Theodosius XVI.viii.7 “… and every sect unfriendly with the Catholics should be driven out of every city in order that they may not be sullied by the contagious presence of criminals. We deny to Jews or pagans the right of pleading a case in court or of serving as soldiers.” (Const. Sirm. No. 6; 425.) Jews are forbidden to withhold inheritance from descendants who had accepted Christianity. Third Lateran Council Canon 26 1179 A.D. I did not even tough upon the Crusades and Inquisition.
Still antisemitism is not all Catholic, as Martin Luther was very much antisemitic. In his pamphlet The Jews and Their Lies, he opens with “But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them.”
John Calvin, was not much better than Luther as he wrote, “Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.”
Adolph Hitler and the state sponsored persecutions of the Jews did not spring up out of thin air. The German people were willing to fan the flames of places like Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka. Hitler was an alter boy, the majority of the SS Catholics, and German people sucked on Luther’s antisemitism as a baby sucks on its mother’s teat. Our faith has always had this stain upon it. We can not hide it and pretend it never happened.
I am not trying to offend you or anyone here, but if we cannot open our eyes and see that our past has conditioned us to react to Jews as G-d’s scapegoats for all the worlds ills, then we can do nothing for Israel and for the Israelis.
Ron, I meant no disrespect to you personally, nor did I mention Catholics explicitly in my first post. What I wanted to demonstrate is that we should be a family united in the love of G-d has become a dysfunctional family where each is trying to out do the other in ways that will never please our Father. But instead we are united only in hate. Antisemitism may not be as burning as it was 60 years ago. Today this virus is kept virulent by a healthy dose of “political correctness.” However, if we do not rid ourselves of this virus, it will develop an immunity to the political correctness. In fact it has started, we are becoming apathetic to the plight of Israel in our culture. Unless we are willing to look deep into our own soul we will never see that the virus still is in us.
G-d called Abraham and he had two sons. One of son Ishmael was given to him because both he and Sarah had doubts about G-d’s ability to keep His promise, then G-d did keep his promise and Issac was born. Ishmael went his own way, and the people he begot forgot the G-d of Abraham and turned to a pantheon of gods. This really bothers the Arabs to the point that they want to destroy every living Jew on the face of the earth. In his own words Jesus said his purpose was for Israel,”I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” We were invited into the sheepfold that is Israel, but we have only tried to take it over.
We must love Israel, for no other reason than it is the right thing to do. This love for Israel must be unconditional, but if we are afraid to admit our past than if there is love for Israel it will always be conditional. Too many evangelicals look toward Israel as prime grounds for conversions, and this is wrong. We are the ones in need of conversion.
Caroline, please forgive me for taking this post off topic. It was not my intention to go here. When I first wrote “history has proved is the only thing a Christian has ever had in common with Arabs when it comes to the children of Jacob is Antisemitism,” was to show that Israel is truly alone in the world of nations. And that the true friends of Israel, who have no agenda but to see G-d’s promise to the children of Israel fulfilled so the world will know that the G-d of Israel is g-d are small in number. I do not claim to be perfect, my youth was spent in a moderately antisemitic family and only through an honest study of scripture did I start to realize that my faith was deceived by a millennium of antisemitism. Apparently people assume I am a Jew,I wish I was a Jew, and I wish I could stand next to your brave people and fight the last good fight. But if I attract anger for standing for the truth, then I hope that people of Israel and her G-d might notice the little good I try to use my life for.
Ted
Thanks for the reply and I did misunderstand your comment.
As a Catholic I do regret the errors of the past by the Church, Catholics and Christians towards the Jews.
I can only hope and pray that we are now and should be beyond that and making amends for our errors and injury to the Jewish people.
Christ set an example early. He chose 12 and blessed them with the vocation to the priesthood.
Having a human nature we are provided a free will to choose right from wrong and in spite of the religious calling, 1 of the 12 (Judas) betrayed Him. 1 bad priest out of 12 was an indication the church would struggle within and error. In the end the church will survive.
Time to bury anti-Semitism once and for all.
Thanks again.
In our efforts to protect our own freedom — and that of others — we have from time to time made mistakes, including at times being arrogant in dealing with others,” he said. “But we always correct course. Our willingness to do so is one of our enduring strengths.”
U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates at the Asia Security Summit in Singapore on Saturday, May 30/09
These mistakes and this arrogance are now only directed against Israel as the arrogant empire refuses to correct course with their chosen sacrificial scapegoat.
The same demonic,mocking focus was directed against Israel just before the collapse of another great superpower.
MENE,MENE,TEKEL,UPHARSIN, Daniel 5
What is striking here is that the same spirit of pride,the same demonic principality present in the last day of King Belshazzar’s rule over the great Babylonian empire is present and has the ears and heart of the U.S. President.
I see the handwriting on the wall !
Ted ,Praise God for your escape from the dark forces of Rome masked as light.
I also escaped from this lie after K-12,a devoted altar and choir boy on call close to the Cathedral with a missionary priest and nun in the family .
The 12 apostles were always apostles and never never priests,some even had wives.
The APOSTLE Peter never went to Rome and was never a Pope.
Ron should spend his enery on changing the dark heart of Rome,especially as it is directed against Israel.
How sad the degree of coverup of priests molesting children by the Pope’s of Rome ,the Cardinal’s and Bishops. How dark is this evil which masquerades as light.
Of the many false teachings of Catholicism ,the teaching of Mary as Co-Redemptrix and the many pagan practice’s of praying to her and the saints encased in stone is Satan’s way of taking our eyes off of our only hope and salvation ,the messiah of Israel, Jesus.
Marcel
Everyone has to follow his heart to G-d/God.
God bless you for following your heart to G-d.
Likewise you, I attended Catholic School K-12 and I never once heard a nun speak unkindly of a Jew.
In fact our school was a block away from the Jewish Community Center and both the school and center shared a great relationship.
I also lived a ½ block away from the center and spent a lot of time there with my Jewish friends.
Now what is important, that we as Catholics/Christians and Jews stand together as one and fight the evil forces that Israel faces.
It begins by respecting each for his beliefs.
We can’t undo the past but, we sure can work for a better relationship today and tomorrow.
As I watched, the US and North Korea heading toward a possible war, the headlines with it were Abbas meeting with Obama for the purpose of DIVIDING ISRAEL! I also read headline articles about the advancement of homosexual marriage. It was chilling to see Obama trying to bully Israel, homosexual marriage along with North Korea nuclear weapons and threats of war…….
If Obama continues this insane pressure on Israel to divide the land and create a terrorist Palestinian state, the US might be at war with the terrorist state of North Korea.
Obama seems perfectly willing, at least for now, to let Iran development nuclear weapons which would bring Israel directly under the possibility of a nuclear attack. AT THE VERY SAME TIME THE US IS NOW FACING THE DIRECT POSSIBILITY OF FACING WAR WITH A NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA!
The following is the Bible verse with exactly fits what Obama is trying to do to Israel.
Obadiah 1:15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done (To Israel), it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Now Obama has to face at the exact time with North Korea, what Israel has to face with Iran.
What is real frightening in this scenario, is that California is the epicenter of the homosexual marriage movement. The homosexuals and their supporters have vowed to make sodomite marriage legal. San Francisco, LA and many California cities are completely given over to homosexuality. Now, North Korea has nuclear weapons and is working day and night to develop long range nuclear tipped rocket that can reach the US. It seems logical that North Korea would target an America’s West Coast city like LA.
I do not know, if at this point, North Korea can deliver a nuclear weapon to hit the West Coast, but looking at the moral condition of these cities, it is absolutely frightening to think of what could happen. North Korea could be an instrument of judgment against the United States. Notice how fast this crisis with North Korea came on Obama.
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Ron wrote ;It begins by respecting each for his beliefs.
Respect Evil ?
It is imposible to ‘respect’ the lie of Islam as it is to accept the lie of Roman Catholicism.
It’s important to be hot or cold as Jesus warned He would spit the lukewarm ‘Christians’ from His mouth. Revelation 3 14-17
As to the truth ,you are lukewarm and follow fables and myths and bend your knee to a man corrupted organization and make pitiful excuses for it rather than serve and worship King Jesus alone. You worship the whore not the king.
Ron wrote; it begins by respecting each for his beliefs.
Respect Evil ?
It is imposible to ‘respect’ the lie of Islam as it is to accept the lie of Roman Catholicism.
Marcel
How to win and influence friends is apparently not one of your attributes.
Blind hatred is not winning friends.
The respect I refer to is one we have for each other, every one of us and not necessarily one’s belief.
Remember, regardless of the path we take to G-d/God, the common denominator is G-d/God.
By the way when someone has this kind of an agenda, I find it’s attributed to some bad past experience by a religious person (clergy or nun).
First and foremost we stand united for Israel regardless of our faith.
We should be inspired by Caroline our freedom fighter.
So please let us not battle with religion.
Israel needs all of us.
Marcel and Ron,
Ron is correct, we all must follow our heart to G-d, and the only prayer we can have at these times is that our heart is true. Not all people of any group are all good or bad. They are after all people.
Although we cannot change the past we can learn from it. We must all look in the mirror and see if the beast looks back at us. This is the most difficult thing any of can do. If we do not confront the demons that live in ourselves we will repeat the past. This demon I speak about can lie dormant for many years, but it awakens in the blood lust of hate. We all see this beast awaken with the Muslims. There are good Muslims but when the hateful speeches starts, even these people are swept up in possession of the mob.
I know of many good catholics who try to live their lives as children of G-d, they are small in number when compared to the total number. I know good evangelicals, but sadly I also know other evangelicals who do not know G-d. The same is true with Jews. What we will agree on is that only G-d can look into the hearts of people and see what treasures or filth are there. It is not up to us lead others to G-d unless we have already found Him. I know I myself am still on the journey.
We three have differences but we share a common concern for Israel and her children. Let us put this difference of how best to find G-d aside and work together on how best we can influence the things we can influence to help make Israel stronger and more prepared than she is today.
What can we do with the information Caroline is sharing with us in her wittings? We are a test I beleive, if the three of us cannot come together than how can those who are on different paths to G-d, but also love Israel come together to support and help her?
I do beleive we all agree we are in the End of Days, and we are the last people that dare stand between the dark forces of hate and the only remaining light left in the world. I beleive we are passionate about this because we have see the light of freedom we once hope our governments to hold dear extinguished. Even though Caroline rarely speaks of Israel’s G-d in her writings, it is this G-d that has brought us here to be together.
So let us start something good here, let us put aside our theological differences and fight the good fight. The prophet Issiah told us, “Cease to do evil, Learn to do good; Seek justice, Rebuke the oppressor; Defend the fatherless, Plead for the widow.” Does this not also apply to Israel? Is she not orphaned and alone in the world? Is she not being oppressed for the price of oil? Are we not called to seek justice?
We know from scripture we will not be judged on what we believed but in what we did. Together we have a chance to do something worthy of the title, “sons of the Living G-d.” We can start by uniting in our support for Israel.
The peace of the Spirit of G-d be upon us my brothers.
Ted, well spoken and thank you.
Amen to the fighting over religion.
We need the good people of the world to come together and support Israel.
A peaceful Israel the land G-d provided for the Jews, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean, including the Golan Heights, all of Gaza and the Sinai.
We need the majority of American liberal Jews to awake to the call of Israel and get vocal with this administration.
Silence is not doing it.
Americans will support you in this fight.
Let Mr. Obama and his administration know you don’t throw you good friend and only true democracy in the ME under the bus.
Ted ,
I’m sorry I misunderstood ,I thought you were a lover of the truth over ‘religion’.
The difference between us is that I hunger for the truth and find that compromise is the devil’s slippery slope.
You’re on that slide.
I know many ‘good’ catholics who are deceived ,who do not know the truth and you are content to leave them in the dark stranglehold of one of Satan’s many strongholds. The moslems are under the same demonic influence ,do you warn them ?
If you have demons ,better have them cast out ASAP and not be content to have them lie dormant Ted.
It’s dangerous to compromise as Israel is being forced to do by her treacherous betrayer America.
Islam and Catholicism have much in common and are natural born enemies of Israel.
To gloss over this reality is naive and shallow and makes for empty,false support of Israel.
An example of this poppycock, empty words of a modern day false prophet who dishes out false hope (below)
He’s always selling us on the worthles Republican party or the useless American people who have done nothing and continue to do nothing of value for Israel except pontificate empty words of support.
If Ron were for real he would tell Israel their only hope is in God and he would flee the enemy of ISRAEL ,the whore of Rome.
The American people,they haven’t lifted a finger and will not as they are too busy collecting food stamps from Mr. Obama.
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B.S.from Ron
Americans will support you in this fight.
Let Mr. Obama and his administration know you don’t throw you good friend and only true democracy in the ME under the bus.
Marcel,
As to Muslims, I do not seek to change those hearts of stone into hearts of flesh that they may be circumcised. I only speak the words that come from my heart. If they bear truth, those who love the truth hear them.
I do not claim to know all the answers, for G-d has not revealed all to me. I learn with each breath. What I have learned is when a group turns on itself it turns to cannibalism. When the rest of the fellowship is consumed and there is only one left, he dies of hunger.
As to demons, what I said Marcel is that there are demons in all of us. We either let them in when we sin against G-d, or we were raised with them in our families. I said we must look into the mirror and confront those demons that live there. Confronting the demons inside of ourselves is a first step. I ask you Marcel did the one we call Lord go up to everyone saying “demon be gone?” No, he did not. Many he cured with no demonic exorcism, but those demons he did cast out he first confronted them.
You and I are on a different path than Ron, we both beleive his path will spill out into the wide and well trodden path we were warned about. That does not give us the right to call him a fool. Did not the one we call teacher warn us not to call anyone a fool, or we risk damnation ourselves?
We were once where Ron is now, can we not have more than compassion for him? Can we not show empathy? Were we not once in his shoes?
What did Yeshua say about the good shepherd? Does he not leave the 99 and go looking for the one?
I too have have hope that America will change its way. Am I a fool because I do not want to see the people I love face the wrath and chastisement of the LORD G-D of Israel for our abandonment of HIS people? It it is a fool that hopes that the light of G-d will shine down and illuminate the weak and selfish hearts of my countrymen so that they may change their ways and do what is right in the eyes of G-D then let me be a fool.
If we speak the truth must we be rude about it? Forgive me but the only ones I ever seen Yeshua rude to were the ones who should have known better. I save my rebukes for pastors, priests and bishops, for they ought to know better.
Ron’s love of Israel at this point in his life is for a reason. It is not for you or I to judge Ron or to question why G-D has put this love into his heart. If having a love for Israel and for the Israelis will cause Ron to step away from the teachings of the Catholic and towards the truth that G-D wants to revel to him, then I am happy that he has heard the voice of G-D.
Forgive me for saying this Marcel, but you sound like the eldest son in the Parable of the Prodigal Son. The son who is angry that the younger son is understanding his mistakes and trying to return home. But neither you nor myself are the eldest son, the eldest is Yeshua. The difference between you and me Marcel is that I know I am not the eldest son, and I can still feel the joy our Father felt when I returned. I am just happy that our Father is happy that an other son who was once lost has heard HIS most holy voice and is trying to return home.
I agree with you that both the Christianity that came out of Rome and Islam are mistresses of the same dark spirit. But we should not darken our own spirit by lashing out at those who want to do what is right and just. Which in this space is supporting Israel.
Again at the sake of getting my own hand bitten, I urge us to become brothers. Marcel be understanding of where Ron is at this point in his life, he was called and is trying to find the place the Voice is calling him to. Be encouraging when he moves forward, and if you feel you need to offer corrective advice, be gentle in giving it. Yeshua taught us to speak the truth through our actions not our words. Ron, understand that there are some of us see the Roman church as the whore John wrote about in Revelation. Understand that those of us who are ex-catholics sometimes are more passionate than those raised in Protestant household about this. Try to understand that this is something that very few of us have done lightly. For me I know I can never again participate in a mass, even my own parents funeral. But seek out the voice that is calling you to support Israel, it may be that G-D wants you to understand something about HIM that the Jews know and Christians do not.
In closing I want to give us all a warning. Posting on Caroline’s blog is a privileged. She used to monitor all postings until she installed the login. She really extended this privilege to us to discuss how the events in the world effect Israel, and to offer our support to Israel. We are taking this off topic and I would not blame Caroline one bit if she revoke this privilege she is extending to us. All who come here to support and encourage Israel I am sure are most welcome, but there are other blogs we can join if we have a need to deep dive into our theological differences. While each of our souls is always in jeopardy the immediate threat is to Israel, so let us support Israel and give encouragement to the Israeli’s that they are not standing completely alone.